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Community Rules, Revisited

Mod Post: Community Rules, Revisited

With over 2,500 members, it's time for us to revisit the community rules. This might lead to general shifts in what community rules are important and not important to our members, and thus, what rules we enforce. Mod Kristie and I would like your input on what rules you find important, what repercussions each rule should have, and how we can improve our moderator abilities.

Please feel free to use the comments section to give us constructive criticism, tell us we're doing a great job or voice your concerns. If you tell us you hate our moderating style, we promise not to hold it against you. I am a strong believer in putting on my "mod hat" and separating my personal opinions from the way I moderate. Likewise, I'll never tell you that you're getting a warning or about to be banned just because you hate outdoor weddings (I had an outdoor wedding). :-) So feel free to tell us how we're really doing. As always, your feedback is welcome at any time; comment to us in this post or e-mail us if you prefer that instead (lizzie9208 at livejournal dot com and/or kageneko at livejournal dot com). Our info is also in the Community Info.

For each of the following sections, you'll find a description of the rule along with our current method of enforcement. Then you'll be able to give us your input on how important you feel it is for us to enforce that rule and what action you think we should take when people break that rule in the future.

For the radio buttons, "1" means that the importance of us enforcing the rule is low, while "5" means it's really important to you that we enforce that particular rule. If you choose that a particular rule should be enforced by "Warning(s), then ban from the community", and then pick that a member should get "Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)", then that means that you think a member should never get banned for that offense. We only ban people in rare instances, after repeated offenses and when they continue to cause drama.

NOTE: You are welcome to change your answers at any time by clicking on the "Poll #xxxxx" link and then the "Fill Out Poll" link at the top of the page. I had to separate the polls into sections, so you'll have to hit your browser's "back" button to fill out each poll, or just right-click on each individual poll link and open it up in and new window/tab. Sorry about that!



Section 1: Personal Attacks- Eg: "snotty brats like you"; "people as delicate and hypocritical as you," "that's retarded," etc. Currently, we give two warnings for this offense and then ban the member if they continue to harass and attack our members.
Poll #952524 Section 1: Personal Attacks

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with personal attacks? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
31(8.8%)
2
29(8.2%)
3
72(20.3%)
4
86(24.3%)
5
136(38.4%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for personal attacks?

No intervention at all
16(4.6%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
60(17.1%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
267(76.1%)
Ban with no warning
8(2.3%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
5(1.4%)
1
82(23.4%)
2
168(47.9%)
3
83(23.6%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
13(3.7%)

Delete the post?

Yes
114(32.5%)
No
237(67.5%)


Section 2: Offensive Generalizations- Eg: "white trash"; "farmers all tend to be alcoholics and get piss drunk at weddings"; "anyone pays more than $X for a dress is a selfish princess bridezilla with a filthy rich Daddy and doesn't know the value of hard earned money," etc. Currently, we give two warnings for this offense and then ban the member if they do not cooperate.
Poll #952525 Section 2: Offensive Generalizations

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with offensive generalizations? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
28(10.3%)
2
22(8.1%)
3
91(33.6%)
4
70(25.8%)
5
60(22.1%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for offensive generalizations?

No intervention at all
10(3.7%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
75(27.9%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
183(68.0%)
Ban with no warning
1(0.4%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
7(2.6%)
1
50(18.7%)
2
125(46.8%)
3
59(22.1%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
26(9.7%)

Delete the post?

Yes
82(30.5%)
No
187(69.5%)


Section 3: Off-Topic Posts and One Line Squees - Eg: "Look at this HOTTT picture of my kitty cat!"; "I lost my job today. Then I went to get a root canal! Can this day get any worse?!"; "I'm getting married in 300 days!!!" Currently, we comment to the poster asking her/him to remedy the situation by either 1) making the post on-topic by adding some wedding-planning information to it, or 2) deleting it. If the poster does not comply after a reasonable amount of time, we delete it for her/him. We do this because this is NOT a general discussion group; we're called weddingplans for a reason.
Poll #952526 Section 3: Off-topic posts/One-line Squees

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with off-topic posts? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
26(9.8%)
2
30(11.4%)
3
51(19.3%)
4
64(24.2%)
5
93(35.2%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for off-topic posts?

No intervention at all
14(5.4%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
130(50.0%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
114(43.8%)
Ban with no warning
2(0.8%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
6(2.3%)
1
54(20.7%)
2
72(27.6%)
3
68(26.1%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
61(23.4%)

Delete the post?

Yes
180(69.0%)
No
81(31.0%)


Section 4: Spam- Spam is defined as commercial solicitation made for personal gain. The eBay auction you have created (regardless of wedding content), or trying to sell your services as a florist, photographer, musician, wedding consultant or any other position, is spam. Wedding professionals being available for advice in the community are welcome. Currently, we comment to the poster letting them know that advertising is against our policy and we delete the post.
Poll #952527 Section 4: Spam

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with spam? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
10(4.3%)
2
16(6.9%)
3
31(13.3%)
4
36(15.5%)
5
140(60.1%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for spam?

No intervention at all
5(2.2%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
28(12.2%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
140(60.9%)
Ban with no warning
57(24.8%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
53(22.9%)
1
89(38.5%)
2
53(22.9%)
3
27(11.7%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
9(3.9%)

Delete the post?

Yes
188(82.1%)
No
41(17.9%)


Section 5: Drama Lama - You get into an e-fight with someone in WP. It escalates. Instead of keeping the drama in the comments (#6), you decide to make a new post about it in the community to show your displeasure and make a "GOODBYE, CRUEL WEDDINGPLANS!" send-off in style. Currently, we delete the post immediately to prevent even *more* drama from occuring and depending upon whether the poster is a repeat offender or not (i.e., has caused drama in the past, or is just trying to be heard and probably won't be an issue in the future) we may consider temporarily banning.
Poll #952528 Section 5: Drama

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with new posts created to fuel the drama? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
13(5.8%)
2
20(9.0%)
3
36(16.1%)
4
49(22.0%)
5
105(47.1%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for new drama-tastic posts?

No intervention at all
6(2.7%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
31(14.0%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
149(67.1%)
Ban with no warning
36(16.2%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
38(17.4%)
1
95(43.4%)
2
50(22.8%)
3
29(13.2%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
7(3.2%)

Delete the post?

Yes
153(69.2%)
No
68(30.8%)


Section 6: Foul Language- You know what dirty words are. *wink wink* We understand the frustration that comes with wedding planning. Swearing, used in moderation, gets the point across. Currently, we ask that if you're going to swear like a sailor, you put it behind a lj-cut.
Poll #952529 Section 6: Foul Language

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with foul language? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
124(55.6%)
2
43(19.3%)
3
36(16.1%)
4
9(4.0%)
5
11(4.9%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for foul language?

No intervention at all
85(39.0%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
105(48.2%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
27(12.4%)
Ban with no warning
1(0.5%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
35(16.2%)
1
11(5.1%)
2
31(14.4%)
3
37(17.1%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
102(47.2%)

Delete the post?

Yes
15(6.9%)
No
202(93.1%)


Section 7: Offensive Icons- Icons showing nudity, foul language, or excessive violence. Currently, if we get a complaint about an icon, we ask the owner of the icon to remedy the situation by removing the icon from the post/comment. This really hasn't been an issue that we've enforced unless we get complaints.
Poll #952530 Section 7: Offensive Icons

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with offensive icons? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
87(43.7%)
2
41(20.6%)
3
36(18.1%)
4
19(9.5%)
5
16(8.0%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for offensive icons?

No intervention at all
57(28.9%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
85(43.1%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
55(27.9%)
Ban with no warning
0(0.0%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
23(11.7%)
1
22(11.2%)
2
39(19.9%)
3
36(18.4%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
76(38.8%)

Delete the post?

Yes
23(11.7%)
No
173(88.3%)


Section 8: Memes - Occasionally someone will post a really cool meme or quiz that everyone wants to try. Currently, we ask that members post their meme/quiz results in the first instance of that meme. If any additional posts of that meme show up in the community, we ask the member to delete the post and add their results to the original post.
Poll #952531 Section 8: Memes

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with memes? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
29(16.3%)
2
19(10.7%)
3
59(33.1%)
4
36(20.2%)
5
35(19.7%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for memes?

No intervention at all
17(9.7%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
118(67.0%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
40(22.7%)
Ban with no warning
1(0.6%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
13(7.3%)
1
27(15.3%)
2
37(20.9%)
3
28(15.8%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
72(40.7%)

Delete the post?

Yes
107(61.1%)
No
68(38.9%)


Section 9: Large/Multiple images- This community defines large images as anything over 400 pixels by 400 pixels. Pictures of that size or larger, along with multiple images must be put behind a cut. Currently, if a member breaks this rule, we ask them to cut the image(s).
Poll #952532 Section 9: Large/Multiple Images

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with large/multiple images? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
17(9.8%)
2
22(12.6%)
3
47(27.0%)
4
40(23.0%)
5
48(27.6%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for large/multiple images?

No intervention at all
10(5.8%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
99(57.2%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
64(37.0%)
Ban with no warning
0(0.0%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
7(4.0%)
1
20(11.6%)
2
37(21.4%)
3
31(17.9%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
78(45.1%)

Delete the post?

Yes
39(22.5%)
No
134(77.5%)


Section 10: Default font- Because custom colors and fonts can cause issues with other members' layouts and it's also hard on the eyes, our rule is currently that the default font style, size, and color must be used when posting in this community. We want all members to be able to easily read what's posted. Currently, when a member breaks this rule, we comment asking them to remedy the situation.
Poll #952533 Section 10: Default Font

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with font colors/sizes other than the default font? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
50(29.8%)
2
27(16.1%)
3
36(21.4%)
4
20(11.9%)
5
35(20.8%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for non-default font styles?

No intervention at all
36(21.7%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
84(50.6%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
46(27.7%)
Ban with no warning
0(0.0%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
9(5.4%)
1
19(11.4%)
2
32(19.3%)
3
29(17.5%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
77(46.4%)

Delete the post?

Yes
25(15.1%)
No
141(84.9%)


Section 11: Long URLs- Sometimes when a member posts a long URL, it can mess up the layout. Currently, if the URL is really long, we ask the member to use an anchor tag.
Poll #952534 Section 11: Long URLs

How important is it to you that the moderators deal with long URLs? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
65(39.4%)
2
34(20.6%)
3
33(20.0%)
4
12(7.3%)
5
21(12.7%)

What action(s) should the moderators take for long URLs?

No intervention at all
50(30.9%)
A general reminder to the community, no names mentioned
84(51.9%)
Warning(s), then ban from the community
28(17.3%)
Ban with no warning
0(0.0%)

How many warnings should the member get for an infraction before further action is taken?

0
13(8.0%)
1
16(9.8%)
2
20(12.3%)
3
21(12.9%)
Unlimited warnings (no further consequence)
93(57.1%)

Delete the post?

Yes
23(14.0%)
No
141(86.0%)


Section 12: Enforcement- We like to enforce the rules, but we can't monitor every single comment in every single post. We rely on y'all to let us know- either by a comment in our personal ljs, e-mail, etc. when something is going wrong. We try to enforce the rules as much as we can without being "Nazis." That being said, with over 2,500 members, it's hard to please everyone and we're trying to keep the peace in the best way we know how- by enforcing the rules that y'all decide upon. So, we'd like to know....
Poll #952535 Section 12: Enforcement

How important is it to you that the moderators enforce any of the rules at all? (5-Very/1-Not)

1
7(3.5%)
2
10(5.0%)
3
48(24.1%)
4
63(31.7%)
5
71(35.7%)

Anything else you'd like to tell us about our moderating style?

Comments

( 72 raised glasses — toast the couple )
purpledaffodil
Mar. 24th, 2007 12:20 am (UTC)
I asked a question once about what people where getting their future husbands for valentines and if they followed the tradition of exchanging gifts before the wedding as well.

It got deleted no warning or email sent.
lizzie
Mar. 24th, 2007 12:33 am (UTC)
While I don't recall the post, it probably got deleted because it's main content was about Valentine's day, not about wedding planning. Especially in the past, we've had a lot of problems with "What should I get my fiance for Christmas/Valentine's day/his birthday/some other holiday?" posts that really don't have much, if anything, to do with wedding planning. Since this is a community solely devoted to wedding planning, we try to keep everything as on topic as possible.

That being said, "on-topic" is open to interpretation. If your post was two paragaphs about Valentine's day gifts, and then one sentence about "Oh, so in order to make this on topic, do you follow the tradition of exchanging gifts before the wedding day?", then it was clearly a stretch to make it on topic. If your post was primarily about wedding day gifts for each other and had a sentence about V-day gifts at the end, then that's on-topic. If the majority of the post is about wedding planning in some form or fashion, then you're good to go. If the majority of it is about something else (how your cat dragged toilet paper from your bathroom yesterday, for example), then it'd be off-topic.

I apologize for the fact that no explanation was given as to why it was deleted. Sometimes we're just too busy to write a diplomatic "This was off-topic." response and link you to the rules, other times we just screw up. So I'm sorry about that.
(no subject) - purpledaffodil - Mar. 24th, 2007 12:46 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lizzie - Mar. 24th, 2007 12:56 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - dkwedding - Mar. 24th, 2007 02:02 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lizzie - Mar. 24th, 2007 02:39 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - bride_to_beeeee - Mar. 26th, 2007 01:12 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lizzie - Mar. 26th, 2007 01:29 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - bride_to_beeeee - Mar. 26th, 2007 05:58 pm (UTC) - Expand
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(no subject) - lizzie - Mar. 26th, 2007 01:51 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - purple_onyx - Apr. 6th, 2007 06:24 pm (UTC) - Expand
charcoalmonroe
Mar. 24th, 2007 12:25 am (UTC)
As far as commercial solicitation, I personally don't mind when people post links to their own PERSONAL, wedding related ebay auctions. I figure its a good chance for them to get rid of extra stuff, as well as a chance for members to get a good deal on something they might need. But that's just my opinion... other commercial posts I find really irritating though.
lizzie
Mar. 24th, 2007 12:38 am (UTC)
I've always viewed commercial postings, whether personal or professional, as spam, since someone is trying to make money off of it. So it's interesting to hear your viewpoint! I wonder if other people feel this way, too. If you do, speak up! :-)

There is, of course, weddings_4_sale, but I don't think it's quite as active as WP.
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(no subject) - bouncepogo - Mar. 24th, 2007 01:15 am (UTC) - Expand
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licking_suntan
Mar. 24th, 2007 12:56 am (UTC)
I think you guys are doing a good job, since I can't recall seeing any problem posts. But then, I skim through and only read comments if something catches my eye. I don't read every post in detail.
thejoysofjess
Mar. 24th, 2007 01:19 am (UTC)
My only complaint is that you live vicriously through others. ;)
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dkwedding
Mar. 24th, 2007 02:05 am (UTC)
Post Deletion
I don't think I voted for post deletion in any curcumstance. Except for cases of random spammers or trolls, I think the poster should get a chance to correct the post, and delete it her/himself, if appropriate. If you then find that the post wasn't corrected after a resonable amount of time, and it's really become an issue, then it's OK in my book to delete away. :)
lizzie
Mar. 24th, 2007 02:44 am (UTC)
Re: Post Deletion
Thanks for your opinion! It means a lot, and it's so helpful to get comments longer than the 255 characters allowed in that text box poll. :-) For you, how would you define a "reasonable time" and when it would be okay for a mod to step in and delete an off-topic post? Six hours? Ten hours? Twenty-four hours? Three days? I'm trying to get an idea of how long we should be waiting.
Re: Post Deletion - dkwedding - Mar. 24th, 2007 02:46 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Post Deletion - lizzie - Mar. 24th, 2007 02:55 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Post Deletion - dkwedding - Mar. 24th, 2007 02:59 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Post Deletion - muliebrity - Mar. 25th, 2007 03:49 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Post Deletion - fightinjesuit - Mar. 24th, 2007 05:12 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Post Deletion - zeeplanner - Mar. 24th, 2007 01:05 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Post Deletion - gretel2381 - Mar. 25th, 2007 12:15 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Post Deletion - faecat - Mar. 26th, 2007 04:36 pm (UTC) - Expand
opheliasmusing
Mar. 24th, 2007 05:18 pm (UTC)
i ran out of room in the add'l comments section, so i'll post it here.

moderating style:

so far, so good- i think we can be lax on some things (profanity in rant posts or icons) but definitely vigilant on others (spam, drama-lama, totally offensive posts).

i've been a member since may or so of 2006, and i've definitely seen the community change and grow- sometimes for the better, and sometimes this place flares up with drama. other times it's slow as hell, and then the next day, there's like, 6 posts in a row about invitations- sometimes it's annoying in the latter regard, but that's why i love this community- there might be 6 posts in a row about invites, but i can glean great info from each one.

my only pet peeve are polls- if they're long, they should go behind a cut. i think ppl should also be forward-thinking enough to check WP first before submitting a poll- i know the other day there were like, 3 or 4 huge polls just about age. it's great that you're curious, but please check and see what's been done first. perhaps y'all should create a "polls" tag- that way ppl can see what's been recently polled, and maybe revisit others that were posted ages ago & they want updated info. *end rant about polls*

like i said, great work so far- i'm finally getting used to the new layout. this is probably my favorite community b/c of how diverse it is and the wealth of info i can get on any given day. i had no idea it was this big, and i definitely appreciate your willingness to revisit the rules and workings of the community, and to solicit feedback from the members in the process.
bean668
Mar. 24th, 2007 08:04 pm (UTC)
With the reminders about putting photos and foul language behind a cut, it would be nice to also include directions as to how to do a cut < lj-cut > etc instructions. I am often supposed to do a cut, but can't find the instructions and locating them is difficult.
lizzie
Mar. 26th, 2007 01:33 pm (UTC)
When Livejournal changed their layout, took away the site map with the FAQs and added that little "find" box on the upper right hand corner, they made it infinitely harder to find things on their website. The "find" box is so sensitive that you have to type "lj-cut" with the hyphen in it or else it comes up with no search results. Which is stupid, in my opinion.

You have an excellent point. LJ cut instructions are buried within LJ now, so it'd be helpful to link people to it when we ask them to use it. :-)
(no subject) - kageneko - Mar. 26th, 2007 02:52 pm (UTC) - Expand
a_dream_weaver
Mar. 24th, 2007 09:16 pm (UTC)
I also said no to deleting most posts, but with an amendment. If they are asked to fix a post or something, and they refuse to do so within a specified amount of time, it should be taken down. Maybe not for long urls and small stuff, but pictures and questionable content.

I have a question though (I might have missed this from before), are we allowed to tag entries that aren't ours? I know that might improve the frequency of posts. Especially if there has been like 30 invite questions...are we allowed to just tell them to search the tags?
lizzie
Mar. 25th, 2007 04:33 am (UTC)
You are absolutely allowed to tag other people's posts! Please feel free to tag to your heart's content! :-) I wrote up an explanation of the tags and how best to use them in the community awhile back. You can read it here. The community is set so anyone can add or remove tags to any post.
(no subject) - lizzie - Mar. 25th, 2007 04:39 am (UTC) - Expand
notmargaret
Mar. 25th, 2007 05:06 am (UTC)
I think the tags in this community are great. they are so helpful and have definitely answered my questions without needing to make another post.

How do you judge what posts are on-topic? Sometimes there are posts that do have to do with weddings, but are of no use to anyone but the poster (if even that). I feel like unless the post includes pictures or offers GOOD advice or asks a question, I don't care. Sometimes I feel like certain posts are more appropriate in someone's personal LJ. I know you don't want to go crazy policing those, but is there any way we can set some guidelines on that? Even if the posts are related to weddings, with so many people in the community, we can't all post every time we do something for the wedding.
lizzie
Mar. 27th, 2007 01:45 am (UTC)
Basically, I judge whether the post is on-topic or not by two pieces of criteria:
1) how important the information is to the other community members
2) what percentage of the post is actually about wedding planning (i.e., if you write five paragraphs and only two sentences of the five paragraphs is about wedding planning, it's off-topic).

A post can be on-topic by having one of the criteria without the other. For example, as much as I personally hate them, a post about a wedding planning nightmare you had is technically on-topic because it's about wedding planning, although in the grand scheme of things, it's not really that important to other community members. At least, that's what I've gathered by the few amount of comments those posts get verses the more "hot topic" issues, like name change, sex, registries, etc. :-)

It's hard to say "This post doesn't offer good advice" because "good" is objective. We're all of different minds and who's to say that what I think is pointless advice or a pointless post is something that someone else will get a lot out of? You're definitely right, that sometimes certain posts are more appropriate for someone's personal lj, but it's hard to draw that line and I'm not willing to step up to the plate and make that line. :-) My hope is that people will figure it out for themselves based upon the number of comments they get- if they get few or no comments, they'll realize that perhaps this wasn't the best forum to post that information, and they'll learn that for next time they want to post something of that nature. But in the meantime, we just have to suck it up and wade through some of the more pointless posts, hoping that some member, somewhere, gets something beneficial out of them. :-)

On the other side of things, I do try and only tag entries that I know are beneficial to the majority of members in the community. If someone tagged their entry with "RSVP" because they got 4 RSVPs in the mail yesterday, that's not helpful to people who will use that tag in the future. So I remove the tag for them, thereby making it easier for people who want to search for RSVP designs, questions, advice, meal choices, etc. that are in the tags. Since the tag feature only shows the 100 most recent entries with that specific tag, it's important to me to make those the best 100 possible!
sillyjilli_bean
Mar. 26th, 2007 01:12 am (UTC)
How do you report a post that you think should be looked at? Someone recently posted something about How she didn't like how unsupportive people were in her last post and its already creting lots of drama. '

Thats difficult to me... I dont know how to report things if need be and sometimes MODs dont always see all comments
lizzie
Mar. 26th, 2007 01:00 pm (UTC)
That post was deleted before I could get to it. But thank you for letting me know about it!

You can always e-mail me or Kristie and just give us a head's up- I usually check my e-mail more often than I check weddingplans. My e-mail is lizzie9208@livejournal.com and her's is kageneko@livejournal.com. You can also leave us comments in our LJs, too. You can just say "Hey, just wanted to alert you to this possible drama:" and link us to the post/comment string. It's soooo helpful when we get information like that because it enables us to get to it faster and curb the drama before it explodes and becomes a 100+ comment drama-fest.
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in_da_lifeworld
Mar. 26th, 2007 09:57 am (UTC)
the main rule i care about is keeping things on topic. weddingplans should be about *WEDDING* plans... ie, the ceremony/party aspect... not marriage, how nobody approves of your marriage, etc (unless it pertains to some questions about eloping or etiquette). some family/friends drama pertains to wedding planning etiquette, but most of it does not! i am so tired of seeing the same posters post time and time again about how some stranger gave them guff about their age/fh/budget/whatever.

also, default font is important. font is personal!!

let the people who cant deal with the rules start their own OMGIHATEWEDDINGPLANSTHEYRENAZIS group... a 2500+ person group makes it that much more important that everyone stay on topic.

kageneko
Mar. 26th, 2007 02:52 pm (UTC)
I have to say I disagree with this statement. Half of planning the wedding is also dealing with the marriage. In fact, the marriage is the most important part of the wedding.

I appreciate your opinion on this, but this community has always been a place where people can find support not just for the material aspect of their planning but the emotional part of marriage in general. I believe you're probably in the minority on this. If I'm wrong, then I hope others will certainly join in.
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faecat
Mar. 26th, 2007 04:33 pm (UTC)
As a moderator of another huge and overactive community, y'all are rather more lenient than I am, for what it's worth. :)
lizzie
Mar. 27th, 2007 01:47 am (UTC)
Awww, thanks! :-) It always helps to get the warm fuzzies every now and then. What community do you help mod?
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purple_onyx
Apr. 6th, 2007 06:19 pm (UTC)
I didn't post any comments in the comment line because I wasn't sure if I had enough room, so I just decided to post a comment here instead =)

I think you guys keep up wonderfully well with this community. I know I've only been a member for about a week now, but I feel very welcome here, and it's always interesting to read about others' opinions and get awesome feedback. True, we may not all agree with the advice we're given, but (from what I've seen so far) people present their opinions in a non-confrontational way, so it's not too hard to hear.

I don't know how you can run this and loversfaraway, Lizzie--you're so amazing! When I actually first joined WP, I remarked to myself on how friendly and open everyone was, just like in LFA =)
lizzie
Apr. 12th, 2007 03:35 pm (UTC)
You're so sweet! :-) LFA is actually pretty easy to run- hardly any drama erupts in there, so it's just a matter of doing maintenance work like adding members stats to the memories and such. And you have no idea how happy it makes me to see people trickle in from there over here. It's more proof that LDRs CAN work! There are probably 10 or so LFA members who are now WP members now, and every time they post (you included) I think "I knew you before you were engaged! eeee!" lol I'm such a dork.
1999
Apr. 6th, 2007 07:28 pm (UTC)
do you guys edit tags, too? cause sometimes i'll put a tag on my entry and come back, and it's totally different.

makes me feel like i'm slow/crazy.
lizzie
Apr. 6th, 2007 07:43 pm (UTC)
Anyone is allowed to add, delete, or edit tags on any post in the community. Here is a good mod post on how we tag entries in the community. Since there are only two of us and a bunch more of y'all, we need everyone's help to make the tags as searchable and helpful as possible! :-)
toofarfallen
May. 7th, 2007 02:16 pm (UTC)
Hi ladies-
Thanks for all the work you do in the forum. Question...I recently left a comment about wedding reviews and how I thought that they were a tad uncouth and that post seems to have been deleted. Did I do something wrong?
lizzie
May. 7th, 2007 02:26 pm (UTC)
Nope, you didn't do anything wrong! It seems as if some other people shared your same feelings in that post and the OP ended up deleting it because she got so much flack for it. You can read her comment about it here, in another wedding review post where other people brought up the same issue- that some wedding reviews are seen as too "harsh." Feel free to give me your input about how we should handle this situation here by answering a few questions. Thanks! :-)
pepperedmoth
Dec. 12th, 2008 01:42 pm (UTC)
Hmm, unsure whether mods still check on this thread, but I had some thoughts on the recent complaints about posts being deleted due to overlarge images (for the record, I've never had a warning or post deleted; these are my calm, outsider thoughts).

As someone with a slow internet connection (bad wireless at home), it's VERY important to me that multiple images be contained behind a cut, and I prefer that very large images be hidden, too.

However, I think the image size requirements should be changed. For example, I believe the default size if linking from Scrapbook is 640x480, too large by Weddingplans standards. But that's really not so big of an image, it's not a problem for most people, and it's the default image size for a lot of image-hosting sites.

I bet changing the size requirements would solve a lot of problems.
lizzie
Dec. 12th, 2008 01:47 pm (UTC)
Yep, we still check this. :-) I get an e-mail every time someone makes a comment or fills out any of the polls.

The reason behind our 400 pixel limit for images outside a cut is because a lot of people's layouts get messed up if the picture is much bigger than that. That being said, you make a good point- I've never looked into the default sizes in Scrapbook, Photobucket, or Flickr (and other programs) to see what they automatically size the image to. Perhaps if there's a standard amongst the photo-hosting sites, then we should adopt the same standard, as this will make it a lot easier when people are linking to pictures from those websites. I'll check it out and talk to the other mods about it.

Thanks for your input!
chapstickqueen
Mar. 14th, 2009 09:30 pm (UTC)
I'm getting really frustrated by what seems to be an increase in one-line squees. There's been lots of “I'm getting married today, thanks for your help!”, “We sent our invitations out yesterday, yay!”, etc. I've been a member here since about 2003, and it just seems like people have gotten more and more 'pick out the ribbon color for my centerpieces, please' or 'what color candle holder should i get' and that's the entirety of the post.
lizzie
Mar. 23rd, 2009 12:05 am (UTC)
You're absolutely right. While I've tried to curb this kind of behavior by linking people to the tags or deleting the posts all together, some have slipped through the cracks. We need to do a better job of enforcing that rule. Thanks for your input!
nightsinger
Mar. 14th, 2009 09:46 pm (UTC)
:) Just wanted to say thank-you for being such awesome mods! You guys keep this place sane. ♥
lizzie
Mar. 23rd, 2009 12:03 am (UTC)
Thanks, dear! You rock. :-)
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